13 Comments
User's avatar
Old Space Cadet's avatar

“There’s a reason those ICE cops are all wearing masks, they fear people knowing who they are because they know what they’re doing is wrong.”

Respectfully and seriously disagree. They wear the masks so the cartels can’t threaten them or their families. Why do you think police wear masks in Mexico? They learned the hard way through violence and assassination.

As for you thinking they are doing wrong, that is a discussion for another day.

The Liberty Lookout's avatar

You’re right, there are other reasons for them to wear masks.

Immigration law is a big discussion topic with lots of arguments on both sides. My basic view is this: the government has no right to own my property. I own my property. The government has no right to tax it, or to tell me what I do on it.

If my family member, who has no visa, wants to come live on my property, they should have the right to. The government has made this illegal. They’ll come and raid my house, kidnap my family member, throw them into prison, and then deport them. Regardless of whether they committed any actual crime (besides violating immigration law), nor whether they were on government welfare (which shouldn’t even exist, it’s funded by stolen taxes). In fact, even if they literally never left my house, they’d still be subject to arrest and deportation.

I shouldn’t need permission from the government for my family to come live with me, or to work for my neighbor.

I see immigration law enforcement as just another in a long list of government violations, along with gun confiscations, drug raids, arresting journalists for freedom of speech, and so on.

Old Space Cadet's avatar

I respectfully disagree. Violating immigration law is still violating the law. You feel you have the right to bring foreign family into our community who do not share our language, culture, nor values. I have the right to say I don’t want that in my community.

The Liberty Lookout's avatar

There's plenty of bad laws, is violating them an actual crime? Is there a law that you might find unconscionable and would resist, or do you obey all laws regardless of content?

Also, you actually don't have a "right" to say no to me having a family member in my house. Your desire to not want my hypothetical family member in the community doesn't mean you get to send armed goons into my house. That would be a violation of my property rights.

Anymore than my desire for you to not have a hypothetical weed farm on your property allows me to send armed goons to your house.

People disagree on stuff all the time, which is why we need to draw firm lines on what is and isn't allowed. I propose property rights and the non-aggression principle are that firm line. Otherwise we're just taking turns using the political system to violate each others' rights based on our own preferences.

Old Space Cadet's avatar

You wish to have foreign illegals on your property, then you must keep them out of the general community if the community has laws against their presence. BTW, weed doesn’t take taxpayer funded welfare, use our schools, rape and murder our daughters, drive vehicles unlicensed and unable to read our road signs, etc.

So, a hard no to your wanting to impose these people on our communities.